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HaQue
Joined: 16 Feb 2013
Posts: 473
Location: Adelaide, Australia
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 Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 15:13 Post subject: FE Reader
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Hi,
I know times are changing, and respect the decisions made for this project. Can I ask about the reader - will there ever be any more produced?
Thank you,
Take Care
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Сергей
Joined: 26 Aug 2005
Posts: 20282
Flash-Extractor developer
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:14 Post subject:
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At current time I do not plan produce more readers
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Fraih
Joined: 27 Mar 2024
Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:06 Post subject:
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| Сергей wrote: | | At current time I do not plan produce more readers |
Is it possible to use any third party (or DIY) NAND reader to generate the dump (micro SD) and analyze it with your software? Thank you!
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Сергей
Joined: 26 Aug 2005
Posts: 20282
Flash-Extractor developer
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Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 14:32 Post subject:
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arvika
Joined: 18 Nov 2009
Posts: 2586
Location: Poland
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Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 21:21 Post subject:
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I think yes. But if you dump memory with other configuration (chip config), models/layouts will not work.
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Fraih
Joined: 27 Mar 2024
Posts: 5
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Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 3:10 Post subject:
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Okay 
Have you considered open sourcing the hardware and just selling software licenses? Just selling the software shouldn't take much of your time and I'd be happy to try to build my own NAND reader with the right schematics and pay for the license.
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Сергей
Joined: 26 Aug 2005
Posts: 20282
Flash-Extractor developer
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Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:55 Post subject:
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Problem is that tech support stopped
Without help you will can not make cases
And will be disappointed
And think that Flash Extractor software is bad
And may be want your money back
Possible high refund rate
And bad reputation
This is bad for me
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Fraih
Joined: 27 Mar 2024
Posts: 5
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:51 Post subject:
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| Сергей wrote: | Problem is that tech support stopped
Without help you will can not make cases
And will be disappointed
And think that Flash Extractor software is bad
And may be want your money back
Possible high refund rate
And bad reputation
This is bad for me |
You could have a big disclaimer clearly stating for which models of SD cards, flash drives, etc. your software works reliably and that no additional support will be provided. I bet a lot of the drives/memory cards people want to recover data from are quite a few years old and their pinouts are already well documented.
I myself would like to recover some data from a couple of micro SD cards from 2012 and 2015.
Also if part of the project is open sourced, I bet there will be more people willing to help others. I think your platform is a great entry point for people that just want to learn about data recovery without planning to run a business and without having to spend thousands of dollars.
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arvika
Joined: 18 Nov 2009
Posts: 2586
Location: Poland
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 1:47 Post subject:
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Open source is bad idea. You can look on some databases where users upload own solutions. There is one big mess.
IMHO the code will be stolen, and maybe released as other paid tool/software.
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Fraih
Joined: 27 Mar 2024
Posts: 5
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:02 Post subject:
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| arvika wrote: | Open source is bad idea. You can look on some databases where users upload own solutions. There is one big mess.
IMHO the code will be stolen, and maybe released as other paid tool/software. |
Sorry, by open sourcing part of the project I was referring to the hardware, so everyone can build their own NAND reader compatible with Flash Extractor.
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jeremyb
Joined: 09 Dec 2008
Posts: 1950
Location: RecoverMyFlashDrive.com Bridgeport, CT, USA
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 21:58 Post subject:
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If you have a FE NAND Reader the protocol can be reverse engineered with the NR software in Downloads with minimal effort. FPGA acts as a NAND Processor w/ Op Codes..
ALE, CLE, DATA, and so forth..
I've done it, NR is a very powerful tool despite Sergey's humbleness 
It can be expanded to support nearly infinite configurations of NAND chips with the exception of DQS and even that can be done through a hardware hack.
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Fraih
Joined: 27 Mar 2024
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 0:38 Post subject:
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| jeremyb wrote: | | If you have a FE NAND Reader |
No luck for me I guess
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moker
Joined: 15 Jun 2024
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Location: Poland
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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 22:45 Post subject:
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I know development is stopped, but I see still a kind potential to learn DR techniques using FE. Are there any chances to buy used Nand Reader these days?
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| jeremyb wrote: | | If you have a FE NAND Reader the protocol can be reverse engineered with the NR software in Downloads with minimal effort. |
By observing photos of Nand Reader, there is no FPGA bitstream memory on the Nand Reader, so probably it is downloaded every time device is started. So technically you need Altera FPGA and FTDI chip, plus some passive components to get Nand Reader equivalent. Then you can start reverse protocol, to write you own software from scratch, to have good starting point to develop something new. At the end you can start to rewrite FPGA image. At the end just in 2-3 years you can have your own version of Nand Reader which you can develop further.
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